It wasn't AI that flipped Proton's charge
READ THE ORIGINAL SOURCEOpen original sourceblog.raed.dev · Opens in a new tabThe author, a long-time Proton paying customer, reacts to a 404 Media report that CEO Andy Yen called an engineer's request for pentesting time "bullshit and loser thinking" and urged staff to use AI more. The author argues the issue is leadership behavior rather than AI-written code, which is acceptable with review, testing, and accountability. Because Proton sells privacy and careful shipping, the author says they are no longer sure they would recommend it.
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- Linked in sourceAndy Yen answered
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- Linked in sourcecould decide whether they kept their jobs
- Linked in sourcealready served its purpose
- Linked in sourcecatastrophic
- Linked in sourceadded some context
- Linked in sourceclumsy attempt
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The author, a long-time Proton paying customer, reacts to a 404 Media report that CEO Andy Yen called an engineer's request for pentesting time "bullshit and loser thinking" and urged staff to use AI more. The author argues the issue is leadership behavior rather than AI-written code, which is acceptable with review, testing, and accountability. Because Proton sells privacy and careful shipping, the author says they are no longer sure they would recommend it.
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- The CEO reportedly called an engineer's request for a few days of pentesting "bullshit and loser thinking" in a security Slack channel.
- Staff were reportedly told AI usage could affect whether they kept their jobs, a plan dropped after it leaked.
- The author says AI-written code is acceptable with review, testing, and clear accountability for what ships.
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